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	<title>Comments on: Fan Guns: The New Face of New England Snow</title>
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		<title>By: David Shedd</title>
		<link>http://www.easternslopes.com/2010/01/05/fan-guns-the-new-face-of-new-england-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-3975</link>
		<dc:creator>David Shedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, great questions!  I went to a real expert, Kevin Kasten, who is the head of snowmaking for Attitash/Bear Peak, for answers; here they are:

1. The TWO most important factors are cold temperatures and good snowmakers.  If it&#039;s too warm, it&#039;s not snow; and, if the snowmakers don&#039;t know how to adjust the air/water mix precisely for the conditions, the quality is poor.  By the way, snowmakers call it &quot;manmade&quot; snow, not &quot;fake&quot; snow...it&#039;s made of water, just like Mother Nature does it!

2. Yes, it actually, CAN get too cold to make snow.  At about -10 degrees F, it becomes very difficult to keep the water lines from freezing.

3. Kevin says that opinions on this differ among snowmakers; however, for him it&#039;s around 10 degrees with a 5 mph wind.  Cold enough to make lots of snow, and a little wind dries it out before it hits the ground giving higher quality; but not so cold that there&#039;s equipment problems or so much wind that the snow doesn&#039;t go where they want it.

Keep studying...maybe you&#039;ll take over Kevin&#039;s job someday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, great questions!  I went to a real expert, Kevin Kasten, who is the head of snowmaking for Attitash/Bear Peak, for answers; here they are:</p>
<p>1. The TWO most important factors are cold temperatures and good snowmakers.  If it&#8217;s too warm, it&#8217;s not snow; and, if the snowmakers don&#8217;t know how to adjust the air/water mix precisely for the conditions, the quality is poor.  By the way, snowmakers call it &#8220;manmade&#8221; snow, not &#8220;fake&#8221; snow&#8230;it&#8217;s made of water, just like Mother Nature does it!</p>
<p>2. Yes, it actually, CAN get too cold to make snow.  At about -10 degrees F, it becomes very difficult to keep the water lines from freezing.</p>
<p>3. Kevin says that opinions on this differ among snowmakers; however, for him it&#8217;s around 10 degrees with a 5 mph wind.  Cold enough to make lots of snow, and a little wind dries it out before it hits the ground giving higher quality; but not so cold that there&#8217;s equipment problems or so much wind that the snow doesn&#8217;t go where they want it.</p>
<p>Keep studying&#8230;maybe you&#8217;ll take over Kevin&#8217;s job someday!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 
I am 5th grader and working on my science fair project.  Could someone please answer a couple questions for me:
1. what is the most important factor when making fake snow?
2. is it ever too cold to make snow?
3.  what is the best temperature to make snow?
thank you 
patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I am 5th grader and working on my science fair project.  Could someone please answer a couple questions for me:<br />
1. what is the most important factor when making fake snow?<br />
2. is it ever too cold to make snow?<br />
3.  what is the best temperature to make snow?<br />
thank you<br />
patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.easternslopes.com/2010/01/05/fan-guns-the-new-face-of-new-england-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-3950</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck,

I skied at Powder Ridge in the early 90&#039;s and had a wonderful time. I was sad to see it go. What a lovely resource it was for the town and the kids who grew up around there. 

I hadn&#039;t heard of their experiment with Fan Guns. Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I skied at Powder Ridge in the early 90&#8242;s and had a wonderful time. I was sad to see it go. What a lovely resource it was for the town and the kids who grew up around there. </p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard of their experiment with Fan Guns. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 02:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked at Powder Ridge in Middlefield CT, in the mid-80s. We had 50 fan jets that were produced by Powder Ridge about 10 years before. They ran into patent issues and had legal troubles on part of the design. When that was finaly resolved and they were ready to go into major productions with world wide contracts in hand, the town of Middlefield put the final nail in the coffin by bringing zoning issues up causing the Zemmels to throw in the towel.

These guns made huge amounts of snow we could pump our pond dry and cover the mountain in a few cold nights.most were 10hp with a turbo type fan made of cast alumnium which was known to explode if it got hit wrong with a chunk of ice build-up . . . those were the days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked at Powder Ridge in Middlefield CT, in the mid-80s. We had 50 fan jets that were produced by Powder Ridge about 10 years before. They ran into patent issues and had legal troubles on part of the design. When that was finaly resolved and they were ready to go into major productions with world wide contracts in hand, the town of Middlefield put the final nail in the coffin by bringing zoning issues up causing the Zemmels to throw in the towel.</p>
<p>These guns made huge amounts of snow we could pump our pond dry and cover the mountain in a few cold nights.most were 10hp with a turbo type fan made of cast alumnium which was known to explode if it got hit wrong with a chunk of ice build-up . . . those were the days!</p>
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		<title>By: The Guns Of Attitash &#124; EasternSlopes.com</title>
		<link>http://www.easternslopes.com/2010/01/05/fan-guns-the-new-face-of-new-england-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>The Guns Of Attitash &#124; EasternSlopes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my experiences talking to snowmakers for the earlier&#8221; Fan Guns&#8221; article, it was time to get out and actually see them at work.  And where better to do it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my experiences talking to snowmakers for the earlier&#8221; Fan Guns&#8221; article, it was time to get out and actually see them at work.  And where better to do it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Shedd</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Shedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allan-

Thanks for reading the article, and for some great background information for our readers.  You&#039;re absolutely right...there were lots of areas using them before Peak converted Crotched.  But, just as Henry Ford wasn&#039;t the first to build a car but rather changed the game for all consumers, so have the recent investments in fan guns by &quot;the big boys&quot; changed skiing for virtually all skiers in the East.  That major investment from a new player to New England (and, frankly, not a &quot;big boy&quot; at that point...all of their other resorts were small) woke up the sleeping giants.  Put a different way, the total number of skier visits affected by fan guns in the 80s and 90s is probably less than will be affected this year alone.  And, of course, the guns themselves have evolved, becoming more efficient and effective.  Hey, if anyone wants me to do an article on the evolution of the fan guns, put in your comments...that might be fascinating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan-</p>
<p>Thanks for reading the article, and for some great background information for our readers.  You&#8217;re absolutely right&#8230;there were lots of areas using them before Peak converted Crotched.  But, just as Henry Ford wasn&#8217;t the first to build a car but rather changed the game for all consumers, so have the recent investments in fan guns by &#8220;the big boys&#8221; changed skiing for virtually all skiers in the East.  That major investment from a new player to New England (and, frankly, not a &#8220;big boy&#8221; at that point&#8230;all of their other resorts were small) woke up the sleeping giants.  Put a different way, the total number of skier visits affected by fan guns in the 80s and 90s is probably less than will be affected this year alone.  And, of course, the guns themselves have evolved, becoming more efficient and effective.  Hey, if anyone wants me to do an article on the evolution of the fan guns, put in your comments&#8230;that might be fascinating!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Fan guns are not new to New England, they are just new to the big boys.

We installed fans in 1984 at The Berkshire Snow Basin in Cummington, MA. We had 4 Fan Jets &amp; 3 SMI Highlands. In 1991 I used 2 Lenkos &amp; 1 SMI Highland to cover 3km of cross country trails at Swift River Inn also in Cummington, MA.

You might also want to check out Berkshire East in Charlemont, MA. They have been using fan guns since the late 80s. 

I know that some of the ski areas in CT are using fans &amp; have been for sometime now. Matter of fact The Fan Jet guns we used at The Snow Basin were developed in CT.

I understand that now that the big boys are using them it&#039;s now news but, they are not new to New England.

Allan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Fan guns are not new to New England, they are just new to the big boys.</p>
<p>We installed fans in 1984 at The Berkshire Snow Basin in Cummington, MA. We had 4 Fan Jets &amp; 3 SMI Highlands. In 1991 I used 2 Lenkos &amp; 1 SMI Highland to cover 3km of cross country trails at Swift River Inn also in Cummington, MA.</p>
<p>You might also want to check out Berkshire East in Charlemont, MA. They have been using fan guns since the late 80s. </p>
<p>I know that some of the ski areas in CT are using fans &amp; have been for sometime now. Matter of fact The Fan Jet guns we used at The Snow Basin were developed in CT.</p>
<p>I understand that now that the big boys are using them it&#8217;s now news but, they are not new to New England.</p>
<p>Allan</p>
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